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<p>Fr. Sean is joined by former host, Fr. Michael O'Loughlin, for a special conversation about their upcoming pilgrimage to Rome, along with a discussion on the Incarnation.</p>

An Incarnational Pilgrimage

Jerome Lejeune

<p>In this thought-provoking podcast, Fr. John proposes the question, &quot;Am I living my Catholic faith in the world as a utopian or an eschatological thinker?&quot;. Tune in as he and Fr. Sean discuss the damaging effects of trying to build a utopia within a society and how the real utopia is not of this world.</p>